the justsoft cheat...

[msufan]

Originally Posted by Grengoddess

rezzo the wanderer is on king too you know O_o



actually WW themselves were the whistle blowers and pot stirrers. they just like the blame their customers for their own crimes thats their mission statement and yes i would be surprised if WW has actually objectively banned a cheater in their 10 years of existence >_> then they blame us for no trusting them or not feeling safe there either

The most obvious cheat i had to deal with was Camormenboy in Price Is Right - i dont know what he did, but he would get scores ABOVE the PIR MAXIMUM (8400) in games. He would get 8100+ consistently no matter what the board was. it was absolutely RIDICULOUS! YOu would think if a person scores about the mechanical MAXIMUM for a game that he would be banned instantaneously. but noooooooooooo. Us PIR people had to deal with that guy for at least 6 weeks. 3-4 weeks after the first person reported him. "yes we are committed to fairness" oh PUHLEASE WW!


funny how all our stories about persistent cheats and worst cheater experiences are all at WW. no one has mentioned king at all XD king treats us right, say what you want about thme but they protect us and keep us safe.

I am pretty sure Rezzo the wanderer is legit.

[Mygirl]

Originally Posted by msufan

I am pretty sure Rezzo the wanderer is legit.

There have been numerous people who have brought him up to my attention and a good portion of them were known elites/goodplayers. I never thought anything of it. But i dont know anymore.

[Raptor]

Mygirl, you've always been a bit on the extreme end of spotting cheats. I know you've suspected Rezzo before and I've always known that name as a legit person. My most personal experience seeing him play was in BJT and if he were cheating there; all of his scores are doable and he has no problem taking a consistent back seat to Sowy.

And now Don's wife? for shame haha. I know this man and his wife aren't into the cheating business. He's steadily given me progress reports on his wife's progress since the game came out. I suppose if you're going for the theory that he's not a proud husband and actually a devious plotter to the max... then that doesn't matter. But I know the guy and he's not up to anything. Lay off a brotha geez

Though the game-killing discussion is valid. Most new games haven't had a chance to grow big due to this. But also who knows how big the games would become anyway? I try to scale back on Big Money even; not playing most of the Easy games, or trying not to burry someone else in entries when I've seen their name losing a lot.

[Mygirl]

I'm hardly on the extreme side of spotting cheats. Most of the times OTHERS bring it to my attention and like I said it was OTHERS who told me rezzo was cheating, not just one, but several.

I'm sorry but I hardly buy that meep doesn't cheat. I don't care if you talk to them or whatever. I dont buy it, period.

Originally Posted by Raptor

Mygirl, you've always been a bit on the extreme end of spotting cheats. I know you've suspected Rezzo before and I've always known that name as a legit person. My most personal experience seeing him play was in BJT and if he were cheating there; all of his scores are doable and he has no problem taking a consistent back seat to Sowy.

And now Don's wife? for shame haha. I know this man and his wife aren't into the cheating business. He's steadily given me progress reports on his wife's progress since the game came out. I suppose if you're going for the theory that he's not a proud husband and actually a devious plotter to the max... then that doesn't matter. But I know the guy and he's not up to anything. Lay off a brotha geez

Though the game-killing discussion is valid. Most new games haven't had a chance to grow big due to this. But also who knows how big the games would become anyway? I try to scale back on Big Money even; not playing most of the Easy games, or trying not to burry someone else in entries when I've seen their name losing a lot.

[msufan]

90% of the time it's:

You get better scores than me = you must be cheating!!

when actually the person is just better or has a different strategy than you do

[dpaull414]

Do you use the same strategy she uses? She did post it to the WW premier boards. And she has steadily improved over time to reach where she's at now. It's not like she popped up out of nowhere to start winning.

She used to always lose to rezzo & unkown, but now not so much. You do something for a couple of hours a day, every day for months & assuming your strategy is sound, you will tend to get better. Somebody has to be best....

She's always been a gamer. Heck, she went on Wheel of Fortune TV show in 2005 and solved every single puzzle (that's the proud bragging husband coming out). Ever see that happen? Of course she studied her ass off and practiced for months before going on the show. Before that she got on the TV show Supermarket Sweep. She memorized the layout of the grocery store set and had a strategy on how to maximize their chance of winning. She did win that too!

anyhow, if you love the game as you have said, keep playing! Her scores are legit. Your information/tactics for devising who is a cheater are not 100%. You are wrong in her case. Use her strategy, practice, and get back in the game. If the others are cheating, she isn't. A legit person can win in that game (for now). Good luck!

See ya,
Don

Originally Posted by Mygirl

I'm hardly on the extreme side of spotting cheats. Most of the times OTHERS bring it to my attention and like I said it was OTHERS who told me rezzo was cheating, not just one, but several.

I'm sorry but I hardly buy that meep doesn't cheat. I don't care if you talk to them or whatever. I dont buy it, period.

[Grengoddess]

Originally Posted by msufan

90% of the time it's:

You get better scores than me = you must be cheating!!

when actually the person is just better or has a different strategy than you do

aaah but that ONLY happens on worldwinner because that is the type of community and environment the WW fairness department has created. they also created a "if i whiiiiine enough, that person will be banned eventually" environment too. this is all the fairness department's creation. so they cannot blame us when 'conspiracy theories' pop up. this is what happens when you DONT protect customers and your site isnt secure. it creates this uneasiness, and paranoia, and fear. and that is what the WW community has ALWAYS been like. until fairness stops creating these types of communities, no matter tha actions of player services, nothing will change. This is your responsibility fairness. what are you gonna do about it? nothing apparently, since you are still failures.


this does NOT happen on king.com and if it does it is because the player whining was originally a member of worldwinner and they havent adjusted to kings community yet. Look at Sowy. He is like BOSS at all king games but the malicious claims that he is a cheater only happen on worldwinner. Same with rezzo being a cheater. Same with me being accused of being cheater. i get would get the most evil, nasty and malicious claims that i am a cheater ONLY on worldwinner. When i have success in a tournament, that i have worked my hardest to achieve, on king.com i get such nice and warm replies. People congradulate me, people reward me with gifts, people even admire me and ask for tips. On worldwinner? I would get tons of messages saying that i am an evil cheater stealing people's money.

See the difference worldwinner? The community and environment of YOUR website is the legacy of your fairness department NOT player services ok? If the community is bad and there are tons of conspiracy theories around and people are abusive to each other that shows what miserable incompetent failures your FAIRNESS department is. They are directly related. got it? hmm? what was that fairness.....? ....... "no"......hmm? oh right i forgot, you all dont give a shit do you

[dpaull414]

WW has 1 big problem. The top-tier elite continually get matched against players who cannot beat them. That provides a massive incentive to be the best. And where there are big incentives, some people will just work mega-hard and be the best and other people may cheat to be the best. And if there aren't enough of 'the best' you end up with games getting killed.

On king I just don't see the same system in place. You can cheat and move up the skill ranking ladder faster, but ultimately you end up in no-persons land where there isn't a whole lot of money to be made. Plus king's security swat team is likely to mess with you along the way, banning you for a while, jacking up your skill rankings when they reinstate you, etc.

Originally Posted by Grengoddess

aaah but that ONLY happens on worldwinner because that is the type of community and environment the WW fairness department has created. they also created a "if i whiiiiine enough, that person will be banned eventually" environment too. this is all the fairness department's creation. so they cannot blame us when 'conspiracy theories' pop up. this is what happens when you DONT protect customers and your site isnt secure. it creates this uneasiness, and paranoia, and fear. and that is what the WW community has ALWAYS been like. until fairness stops creating these types of communities, no matter tha actions of player services, nothing will change. This is your responsibility fairness. what are you gonna do about it? nothing apparently, since you are still failures.

[Grengoddess]

mess with you? you just dont like it that kings system is soooo good at recognizing any type of fraudulent behavior compared to WW. the only people that prefer WW are those who want to make consistent money and people who want to get away with ANYTHING without any consequences. i like that king is virtually a cheat free zone. it suuure makes playing there a lot better ^_~ and more fun!

[Mygirl]

I don't do that. If that was the case I'd be calling out bgtwinsrock out in Wheel of fortune, Raptor out in Big money, Boersma out in Solitaire, Jessica out in Monopoly. As HUMANS you make mistakes you dont do PERFECT on EVERY SINGLE board you play like the majority of the cheats do. Period. I dont go out and accuse every single person who is better than me of cheating. Good Grief.

Originally Posted by msufan

90% of the time it's:

You get better scores than me = you must be cheating!!

when actually the person is just better or has a different strategy than you do