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Esposing the scam that is king.com
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Old 04-26-2009, 08:45 AM
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Hi people

Firstly, I will let readers know that this is a thread based on personal experience and also with the stories and testimonials from other players who have experienced the same thing as me in terms of feeling scammed by king.com so this is not just about grudge-holding or pettiness. I feel that justice should be done to stop honest people being cheated by this site and if (as yet) you have not been cheated or you simply do not agree with what I say about the site, then you should leave this thread now as what you would say in response probably contributes absolutely nothing to my cause.

Now, onto the main point. I joined king.com as I am a fan of paying skill games and thought that if I could make a wee bit of bonus cash while playing these games, then why not? Long story short, I tried to withdraw 100 pounds in winnings into my bank account, which they stated would take 14 days. After 14 days, they stated that they had blocked my account, and taken my winnings and donated to their website's "freeroll" games as a result of cheating with multiple accounts, which I stipulate, is a complete fabrication. I have encountered many reviews from other users on review websites, who have encountered almost identical circumstances. I will not hide the fact that my main concern is recovering my honest winnings, but it seems they are using the multiple accounts excuse to scam other players who lose to winning players in order to dishonestly take all their money. I am very passionate about this story and am currently putting together evidence and stories from other users to build a case and would love to discuss this further with anyone who has encountered similar circumstances.

I would like to mention that I am also a member of Worldwinner and have found no problems with them (well, apart from that their games are quite hard to win at!) and have no qualms in depositing money there, despite not winning.

If you have been scammed by king.com in the same way I have - tried to withdraw money from winnings but then refused because of multiple accounts - then please write to me, describing the situation, and with "king.com espose" in the subject field of the email. I am putting together evidence with the intention reporting the site to Watchdog to have the company investigated. I am concerned at the fact the the website is clearly using these "multiple account" excuses to indirectly take money from other honest players who have lost to winning players in games. The scam is obvious in both ways:

1. Players lose money by losing in games and have to re-deposit more money
2. Players win games from these players and then the website takes the money back off them, with the pretense of "multiple accounts" and the "donation" towards freerolls, which attract more players, and the cycle begins again.

Please support me in this cause. I am determined to bring justice to this situation and ultimately, have the website closed for good, to save people from wasting their money.

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Old 04-26-2009, 09:04 AM
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HAHA! thats funny. considering that WW is a LOT more hypocritical, genocidal towards their most promiment players, oh and they are complete bullshitters too.

oooh you poooor pooor thing. what WW does to people is MUCH MUCH worse than what king could possibly do. there is not as much money on the line at king either. plus their site is super super secure which is why the withdrawal system acts the way it does. i agree it sucks about their withdrawal system...but i would rather play in a cheat/abuse/genocide free environment than the depressing witch hunt environment WW always seems to have.

oh and btw i have over 10,000-20,000 dollars in deserved honest winnings that WW has yet to give to me. not to mention at least one million dollars that skilljam owed me from cheating me out of the w3games 2006. those 10k-20k dollars are from losing in tournaments that i would HAVE won if the fairness department wasnt a bunch of incompetent assholes and banned the CHEATERS i was forcedto play against. after a cheater is deemed as a cheater the funds should go to those that should have won if those cheats werent there in the first place. Since WW cheat nabbing technology and entire fairness department is literally worth its weight in SHIT, cheats get away with cheating for weeks to MONTHS at the expense of all us long time legits. King is the BEST when it comes to security and giving us cheat free environements and taking care and PROTECTING us players. trust me.......WW is way worse than king in all the points you are trying to make. i dont buy it
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Old 04-26-2009, 09:30 AM
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I am determined to bring justice to this situation and ultimately, have the website closed for good, to save people from wasting their money.
Haha..good luck
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Old 04-26-2009, 09:44 AM
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Let me explain something to you about king.com

king.com actually DOES care about fairness and security unlike WW. since they are REALLY passionate about ensuring fairness and security for all players they have several security protocols in play. this is why cheats rarely get a chance to make gold accounts before they are caught. this is why king automaticaly knows when any player (even legit ones) are trying to sandbag or exploit their system in any way. and why they are able to monitor EVERYTHING efficiently.

now King does this alot....and not to "scam" us but to make sure we are not scamming them at the expense of the cheat free environment they are trying to create for all us players. If after all their security protocols dont find a person a cheater....they have secondary methods to tell if some abuse is going on. those methods are when a player makes a withdrawal and if a player logs in from different IP addresses. If you logged in from different computers or IP addresses it sends a red flag to their system that you MAY have multiple accounts. ok? When players make their first withdrawal, especially a BIG one (for king a big withdrawal is like 100 dollars + LOL!) this is king's only other time to check if that player legitimately earned that money. This has happened to me before. they said i had multiple accounts when i made my first withdrawal. so i sent them a copy of my driver's license and then i was let back in just fine. i logged in from mine and my mom's computer thus why they thought i had multiple accounts. and i made a pretty hefty withdrawal (i think it was 200USD).....so to be sure and safe they blocked me until everything was settled out. i understand WHY they are doing this to a lot of players. but it is what they do to ensure a safe and secure environment for all its players and that YOU arent trying to scam THEM. get it? i would rather king KEEP doing this so that they can continue to have the cheat free and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better safe and happier and soothing environment that they have (always better than WW).

so just send them a copy of your ID and things should be checked out just fine. king is the WAAY better skillgame site. if you try to close king.com down...you will leave me no choice but to go dominatrix on your ass.....just saying
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Yeah they closed my account when I first tried to withdraw. Had to send ID, prove that I could actually score that high by sending some videos, and explain to them that my brother (who was living in the same house at the time) also had an account. Account was reinstated, and they never bothered me again. In total I've withdrawn nearly €10000 by now.

King.com is awesome.
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King.com is awesome.
understatement of the century
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Old 04-26-2009, 11:08 AM
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The points made are all good and fine but what I am most vexed about is the fact that they simply "donated" my money to their freerolls without even having gave me the chance to prove otherwise. And somehow, even after I have managed to prove that I didn't cheat, I doubt they will be willing to "extract" my winnings from their freeroll to be returned to me.
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Old 04-26-2009, 11:36 AM
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Just to echo what everyone else has said, king.com is very tough on first withdrawals from players who suddenly join and win a bunch of money. We all APPRECIATE their scrutiny in this area. Once you jump through their hoops, if you're legit, you'll get your money back and be able to make future withdrawals without the hassle. And as a bonus, you'll know the players you're up against are legit, because they will have gone through the same burden of proof you went through.
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Just to echo what everyone else has said, king.com is very tough on first withdrawals from players who suddenly join and win a bunch of money. We all APPRECIATE their scrutiny in this area. Once you jump through their hoops, if you're legit, you'll get your money back and be able to make future withdrawals without the hassle. And as a bonus, you'll know the players you're up against are legit, because they will have gone through the same burden of proof you went through.
exactly we all know that king loves us cuz they do all this to make sure were are in a safe, pleasant cheat free environment...and they create the funnest, most interesting, beautiful, challenging, and lovable skillgames inteh world!

king loves us! and we know it! WW on the other hand? not so much XD
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:26 PM
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Tai, I also (as pretty much everyone here) got nabbed by this too. With the "donated to freeroll" language and everything...

Trust me, for a site this size, the money is fluidic and it is well solvent...so it isn't actually your official money that was already in the freeroll and would have to be extracted, if you prove you are a legitimate player with no additional accounts, they will reinstate you and your full balance will still be there. I had over 400$ in my account when it happened...when I got reinstated, all 400$ was still there...every penny accounted for.

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