WorldWinner Luxor

[Pommac]

As you might have noticed I'm new here and I first registered for a worldwinner account yesterday. After trying the different games I've decided to go for Luxor as a start. Now I wonder if there's any expert players here who can give me some tips on how to score big in this game? Is there even some kind of tutorial?

I want to be good enough to win constantly before starting playing for money as I've understood that's how you make the most money out of a game, correct? However, when I do start playing for money, which tournament type should I choose? The Daily tournament with a first prize of only $22 or should I play the highstakes games with an enrty fee of 30 usd and a first prize of $100 among 5 players. Are the quality of my opponents going to differ between those two tournament types?

Also I wonder if anyone could recommend what kind of scored you need to be able to win constantly? I'm currently scoring around 140.000-160.000, how much do you suggest I improve that number before starting playing for money?

Thanks

[dpaull414]

check this out:
http://www.cashgamers.net/forums/pla...-ww-luxor.html

don

[Pommac]

Okay that's, ridicoulos I'm only like 100.000 points short. But I guess that's absolutely top players. Still I wonder if anyone can confirm approximately what it takes to win constantly in the lower ranks?

[Skialot]

Okay that's, ridicoulos I'm only like 100.000 points short. But I guess that's absolutely top players. Still I wonder if anyone can confirm approximately what it takes to win constantly in the lower ranks?

The problem is that if you win consistently in the lower ranks, you'll be moved to the higher ranks.

If you're going into skill-gaming for the purpose of making money consistently, you really need to approach it with a goal of becoming an elite in at least game, preferably two or three. Not sure about King, but that's how it is at WW.

[dpaull414]

I think the 'problem' with worldwinner is that it's fairly easy to get good enough to beat all the lower division opponents, but you will rapidly advance to the top/best division. At that point you need to be AWESOME to win.

Take a look at the top 10 scores in the last luxor freeplay if it's still around to see where you need to be at. I suspect it's similar to the scores you witnessed in that video.

The last thing to remember about WW is that people can typically enter a tournament multiple times. Many competitors would appear to be more interested in winning the competition than in making a profit. Those people can be in my opinion, a nuisance. Look at the screen shots in this thread:
http://www.cashgamers.net/forums/pla...t-believe.html

In the first screenshot, the person in 2nd place entered 7 times at $35 an entry. So they spent $245 and I think 2nd place paid $40. They really wanted that first place spot of $200 badly.

In the second screenshot, the same person in 2nd place entered 9 times at $35 each for a total of $315. They got paid $40 for second.

I'm not sure if I'm making any point other than that people will chase prizes, so you better put up really good scores or somebody may just keep playing over and over until they top you. And when that happens a lot of times nobody but WorldWinner makes any money.

King.com is a different beast. Practice a game, get skilled at it, then enter the daily/weekly progressives as long as you can and make money. Eventually you'll advance to a level were you aren't good enough to win those progressives. You either need to get better, or find a new game on king. And with king having 100 games or so, finding a new game isn't too hard.

The problem is that if you win consistently in the lower ranks, you'll be moved to the higher ranks.

If you're going into skill-gaming for the purpose of making money consistently, you really need to approach it with a goal of becoming an elite in at least game, preferably two or three. Not sure about King, but that's how it is at WW.

[Pommac]

Thanks for the info,
Ok, from what I'd read so far I'd got the impression that there where more money to be made on World Winner than King by only beating the lower divisions but I guess I got that wrong then. However since I've practiced Luxor for a bit now I think I'll try start playing for money at WW and see how long it last to get an impression and then maybe move on to King.

What I wonder is, now when I'm mediocre playing Luxor what's the best way to get value out of the game? I mean what kind of tournaments should I go for get the most money out of the game before advancing to a to difficult division?

Just out of curiosity, do you have any idea of what kind of money the top players in a game on WW are able to make?

[dpaull414]

What I do on King is to only enter progressives at the lowest levels as I think the payoff is greatest there. If I'm about to bump up a skill level and I'm not sure I'll win at the next skill level, I will crank out as many cup entries as I can at the lower level. I will then play those cup entries very slowly while I see what i can accomplish on the next skill level in the progressives........

Thanks for the info,
Ok, from what I'd read so far I'd got the impression that there where more money to be made on World Winner than King by only beating the lower divisions but I guess I got that wrong then. However since I've practiced Luxor for a bit now I think I'll try start playing for money at WW and see how long it last to get an impression and then maybe move on to King.

What I wonder is, now when I'm mediocre playing Luxor what's the best way to get value out of the game? I mean what kind of tournaments should I go for get the most money out of the game before advancing to a to difficult division?

Just out of curiosity, do you have any idea of what kind of money the top players in a game on WW are able to make?

[Pommac]

What I do on King is to only enter progressives at the lowest levels as I think the payoff is greatest there. If I'm about to bump up a skill level and I'm not sure I'll win at the next skill level, I will crank out as many cup entries as I can at the lower level. I will then play those cup entries very slowly while I see what i can accomplish on the next skill level in the progressives........

Ok, I upgraded my account on WorldWinner just to realize they charge 30% tax on the winnings of foreign players. Also, I'm not allowed to play the large tourneys since I have to had play like 50 cash games to be qualified. I think I'll be in and out quickly and go for king.com instead.

[voxleo]

Re types of tourneys to enter at WW:
I am relatiely new to WW too, but here is what I've discovered -
Right now the only thing I have learned is how to lose money consistently, not win it - BUT: I have learned why and just need to knucklne down on my discipline factor. The dailys are tempting because of the of the high entry to pay out ratio - IF YOU WIN, AND ONLY ENTER ONCE OR TWICE. (I must admit to being one of the "nusiance" people spoken of earlier, but I only did that to prove something to myself - besides my own stupidity that is... - I think I could be a contender in Brickout if I could beat my own "choke" factor) However, I have had the most consistent rate of return by controlling the unknown factors, and picking higher entry-fee contests with larger pays and fewer players.

Reasoning: I am good but inconsistent. If I were grading myself like in school I'd say A-average with A+ highs on occassion and off and on A level play depending on the board. Whatever my division, If I have played enough times to qualify for a daily I find that I can usually post a score in the top 25 on the first try on a good day. Problem is the top 10 spots get very tight in scoring differences, so I find it tough to get paid unless I enter 3 or 4 times, and its best to wait until later near closing to see what I will really have to beat. First place at 8 am can be 40th by 8pm very easily. Generally I see the same names at the top all the time but I can beat 4 out of 5 in the community pool in one to one play, but I haven't the patience for it. The five player competitions are a decent wager, but it depends who's online. Timing is critical to get enough palyers without them being all the top notch ones. I've had the best luck with the 3 player games though, because I can consistently beat 2 of 3 more often than I can 4 of 5, especially at the right time and the payout is closer to 2:1 as opposed to the 1:.5 of one on one so if I choke I can try again sometimes and still profit. The dailys are just a waste for me because I can't ace it every time.

Thus far it would seem that the best way to maximize advantage is to minimize the unknown - stick with the limited entrys and find a comfort zone of how much you can lose vs the likelyhood of what you will win. Personally, I like Kng better. Its more fun even to play for nothing but jewels. WW feels a lot more like "gamble" than "game" and I'm not entirely confident that its a fair field since there isn't much disclosure on ranking.

just my 2 cents...